Rich Robinson: Behind The Black Crowes Friday April 25, 2003 @ 12:00 PM By: ChartAttack.com Staff http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2003/04/2501.cfm by Debbie Bento Last year was the year of reckoning for the Black Crowes. Their frontman Chris Robinson got tired of singing the same old songs and wanted out. His brother and Crowes guitarist Rich, on the other hand, cleaned things up very nicely by looking over the release of the Crowes' last record and moving full-steam ahead into other projects. One is Hookah Brown, his new band with former Moke member John Hogg. They may sound a wee bit like Rich's other band, but hey, what can you expect? ChartAttack sat down with Rich and had a tete-a-tete about what really went on with the Crowes demise, what he thinks about starting from scratch again and why he hates damn, dirty rock critics. Hookah Brown: Fionn O'Lochlainn, John Hogg, Rich Robinson, Bill Dobrow ChartAttack: So how does it feel to finally be in a band without a family member? Rich Robinson: It's the only band I've ever been in without one so it's different and it's good. I mean, all of it's good. I've never been in a band without Chris. I've pretty much been in a band with the same people for, like, 15 years, so it's really cool to just get out and play with different people and learn different things. Has starting a new band and constructing new songs brought you back to the early days and fresh feeling of starting it out with the Black Crowes? Is it the same? No. It's different because when I was in the Crowes I was 19. I was in high school when I was making Shake Your Money Maker. Chris and I were writing that record. We were brothers, we'd been in a band for four years and learned how to play and it was something. else, ya know? It's like your first sort of love. It'll always be really special. And [Hookah Brown] is different. It's great, it's cool. But I'm coming at it from a different mindset because I've seen a path from the valley to the hill. I've seen how that works and I sort of have a bird's eye view. I mean, 20/20 vision is impeccable, a bit of hindsight is 20/20, so you can see other things. Are there any specific mistakes or experiences that you've learned from your days with the Crowes that you've taken with you in being part of Hookah Brown? The great thing about the Crowes is that when we started we came in under the radar. No one gave two shits, it was just like they signed us as a favour. And there was no money involved. So we came in under the radar and then we sold so many records that we weren't under the radar, but no one really told us what kind of records to make. And so we were always able to make the records we wanted to make. The only problem came when people tried to pick our singles for us and all this bullshit, and it was always geared towards what sounded the most like "Hard To Handle." And they never used our strongest asset, which I thought was that we always changed. People that were writing that we sounded like the Stones on Three Snakes or Amorica, they were fuckin' idiots. And they proved their ignorance and idiocy for stating that because they never listened to our records. Our records grew leaps and bounds every time we made 'em. And I'm not talking about commercial viability, but musically and songwriting-wise. Playing together as a band that grew. Right now, these are my songs, it's my band, I get to do what I want to do and I don't care what the typical record company-like asshole has to say. Y'know what I mean? And it's not to be a contrary asshole. It's like, this is important to me and people can have their opinions, but at the end of the day look at where your opinions have got us. Like, the most depressing time of music in music history! Is that part of the reason why the Crowes split last year? No. We stopped going because Chris really wanted to do his own thing. Period, that was it. That pissed off fuckin' Steve (Gorman, drummer), then Steve quit, then that made Chris even more mad and, you know what, it was time because we weren't getting along by the end of the (Lions) tour. It was very apparent by the start of making Lions where things were headed. By the time we were finished the record it was very apparent. By the time the record came out it became even more apparent. And Chris just wasn't into it. And then everyone wasn't into it because of that. And it just became this. thing. Your pairing with your brother is one of the most memorable and powerful in rock history. How would you describe or even compare the pairing you have now with Hookah's frontman John Hogg? Chris is a really strong personality. A really stellar frontman, an amazing singer - all those things. With him, it was like, I wrote the music, he wrote the lyrics and if I ever tried to write a melody or lyric he was like,"No." Totally. For me, that would be like the same thing. It would just be a fight, like "No! You're not going to let me write this so I'm not going to let you write that." But it worked. With John, it's definitely more forgiving. I'm used to writing all the music, but I've written a lot of lyrics and he's cool with it. It's an easier collaboration now because there's not that much baggage and there's no ego involved. If I write a lyric he's, like, "Wow, I really like that" instead of "Oh, that sucks". which is what sometimes happened [with the Crowes]. What do you think of people who say your new band is just a Black Crowes Pt. 2 and you're still just a bunch of hippies? I mean, look at the name of your band. It's similar because it's my sound. People will write what they're gonna write. It's funny because they said we were just a hippie band and they also said we sounded exactly like the Stones, then when we played with Jimmy we sounded exactly like Zeppelin. So for people who said that, it was obviously based in ignorance. It's like, the Stones weren't a hippie band, yet we sound exactly like them. Zeppelin wasn't a hippie band and we sounded like them. And no one EVER accused us of sounding like The Grateful Dead so....